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Tod Howarth on Ace Frehley, Frehley's Comet - auditioning, touring, recording the two albums
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Mar 28, 2025
Tod Howarth talks about auditioning for Frehley's Comet, recording, meeting John Regan, Anton Fig, Ace Frehley and more #todhowarth #frehleyscomet #fourbyfate #acefrehley #metal #heavymetal #rockpodcast #podcast #interview #metalpodcast #rock #metal #musicpodcast #heavymetal #podcastersofinstagram #podcasting #rockmusic #subscribenow #whiskeyalwayswins #metalrockwhiskey #whiskeypodcast #rocknroll #whisky #whiskey #todayinrock #hojenometal #hojenorock #todayinmetal #rockadd #music #podcastlife #downloadnow #spiritofrockpodcastnetwork
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I think in about mid 8886 we were
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touring doing a co-headlining with John
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weight you know from the babies yeah
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when he was doing I ain't missing you at
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all that that tour great great song and
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uh I used to listen to the band uh do
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their sound check and it was Frankie
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Lorac on drums and John rean on bass
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Arthur Ste on keyboards and I was going
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wow they sound great you know cuz I love
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love John weight's vocals so one time
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after their sound check I just went
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right up to John rean he was walking
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into the the arena because we were
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playing this pretty big place and I I
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walked up to John and I said hey I'm
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Todd Howard I play keyboards of cheap F
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I love the way you sound your bassone is
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amazing and oh yeah I know who you are
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I've been watching you sing up there so
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we got to talking and he learned that I
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could play I told him you I'm I'm
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actually guitar player I'm least singer
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songwriter and you know I've been
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playing keyboards first but you I'm
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playing keyboards for cheap trick so he
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said that's amazing he say I'm working
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on a project right now so I really can't
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tell you who it is but I'm working on a
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project uh that you might might be
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fitted for someone like you if you know
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if the Styles mesh so we exchanged
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information and we saw each other
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through the rest of the tour and then
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after the we had a break on the tour
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tour and John had called me and said hey
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this is who it is it's it's Ace fry from
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kiss and it's a band called Fry's Comet
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we've got five members and we want to
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consolidate down to four members oh okay
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and we'd like you to come audition so I
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managed to have my travel agent who
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booked my flights for for a cheap trick
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they I had him fly me out to New
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York prior to a day of going to the next
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leg on a cheap trick tour and I
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auditioned for uh John Ace and Anton was
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in the studio and I think it was wasn't
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sir but some studio in New York I forget
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I think it was recording studio yeah it
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was it was Anon fig on drums right yeah
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andon fig yeah and uh and and it was it
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was great uh I've never seen Ace without
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makeup but cuz I never really followed
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him um and then um the band was good but
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you know it was a small room but you I
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was like wow it's pretty pounding then
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the material wasn't quite what I wanted
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to do but you know it's still a business
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move and I thought you know could work
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and uh you know Ace you know he liked me
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and the band liked me or the guys did
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but Ace wasn't too sure of me because I
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wasn't a wild lead player I mean I can
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play leads but mine are pretty much
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Melody and stuff but
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so uh I I went back out toward a CH
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trick and John said hey come on back and
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you you know do some other stuff do some
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leads and do this do that so I did the
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second thing the second another time I
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flew out and audition the second time
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and that's when a said yeah I think the
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guy will work and that's how I get into
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Fry's comment and I went into the studio
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in January of
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1987 to uh finish up the album they had
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already started recording which was fr's
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Comet so you you sang on on that album
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also uh yeah I think I sang about three
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s sang uh breakout I think I sang I
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think something
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moved and I can't remember what the
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other song I don't even have the records
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here with me but um yeah and I uh
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contributed either one or two songs and
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of course they got a little bit more
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involved for second sighting but yeah
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the the album had already been in the
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process of being recorded is it is that
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the is sorry is that the album that edit
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run got
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signed yes oh okay Eddie Eddie Trunk
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yeah he got he got signed and that was U
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the album that uh uh oh God uh Mega
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Force no no mega force uh well it was
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Mega Force records distributed by
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Atlantic oh okay okay okay yeah but uh
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I'm kind of having a a brain fart here
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thinking of the the producer um Eddie
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Kramer EDD Eddie Kramer
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he did the first that that that record
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and uh they had already started
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recording it and I went in embellished
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and I added some stuff guars and and
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vocals background then some lead vocals
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and um it was it was a fun record a lot
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of fun it's a great record you you also
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were on the on the second one right
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second sighting came out um we before
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that came out we had a live plus one uh
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recording with Anton fig back uh in the
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band for two weeks
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cuz Anton fig couldn't tour with the
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original Fry's Comet because he got the
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job with David Letterman show and that
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would go on to last uh him for over 30
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years so it was a smart move on Anton
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fig to stay with Letterman uh so we got
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Billy Ward not from Sabbath but another
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Billy Ward who's very good drummer but
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he and John you know butt heads on that
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John finally told him you know you're
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out and he got Jamie all dayer to come
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back in the band but before that we did
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two weeks with Anon fig and recorded
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live plus one and that was released as
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you know like a live VP yeah then they
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the record company wants to release
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another record which I thought was too
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soon and Ace wasn't ready you know
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writing all
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songs and he was sick a lot through that
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recording so I had a lot of songs ready
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to go
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in including the song it's over now
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which is a power ballad and so we record
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that record primarily a lot with Ace not
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being there a lot because he just he
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didn't have the songs ready uh we were
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trying to meet the deadline for the
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record company and and he was sick a lot
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but I mean he and he didn't really
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protested he he just wasn't there and
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because John and I pushed to get the
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song uh the the album out uh people had
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the conception that we were trying to
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take over the band which was you nowhere
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near the the case it was just the way
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things were but what was the uh I I I
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saw some I I didn't see the video I read
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a video uh of you uh that uh that
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Atlantic Records wanted to drop you off
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the band of
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real oh yeah well what had happened is
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after we were on tour with Iron
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Maiden and the second second sighting
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was already out and they had a couple
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sing singles and it was doing okay we on
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tour with Iron Maiden
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unfortunately it wasn't planned very
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well financially that wasn't my fault I
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didn't have anything to do with that but
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I guess I could have stepped in and said
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hey we're spending way too much money we
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ran out of money and damn there went
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bankrupt on that tour so we had to to
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leave and in the process of that falling
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apart uh the the label thought let's get
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the band back in and do another record
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but let's have Ace write and sing
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everything and not have Todd do any of
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that so I guess I kind of blamed it on
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me to a degree which you know maybe it
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was partly that perspective was the
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fault I don't know you know primarily
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the ace fans wanted to see Ace and Ace
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styled material I get that I mean even
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more so now but back then for me at that
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point I had three children and a family
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and a house and I'm going how am I gonna
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support myself if I can't write songs
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and then if I'm not even singing them
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that's you know just a slap in the face
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to me yeah so that's when I decided look
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you know I called Ace up and I said ace
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I'm you know I I can't I can't stay I
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going to have to you know try my luck
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and and strike out and try to get a solo
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deal or put another band together
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because I'm screwed if I can't make any
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money yeah uh publishing or otherwise
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and he understood it he said I he said
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you know I understand I wish you
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wouldn't go but you know I understand
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what you have to do and that's exactly
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what happened yeah yeah yeah yeah you're
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you're still great with Ace right ace
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and I I mean we when we see each other
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which is not very often anymore and uh
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we're fine uh we don't have I don't have
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a problem with him he doesn't have a
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problem with with me we haven't talked
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to each other in years well last time I
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saw him was uh I think we did the we did
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a show in miam when I was with 4 by fate
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and then we had Return of the Comet with
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Richie scarlet and Steve Budgy Warner
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and we had
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uh that was actually four by Fate but
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anyhow we
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had a come up and do a song with us and
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it that it did the sound went bad or
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there was a big debacle on there Ace was
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irritated cuz he couldn't hear himself
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uh that was primarily I think the last
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time I I spoke with Ace Andor it may
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have been in one of the shows uh we did
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a show with
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him he was with his band at the chance
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in New York and I was with 4 by Fate but
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we haven't really talked a lot at all
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though he Ace is doing what Ace wants to
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do and that's his own solo band yeah
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