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Okay, in the new episode of the Denim
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and Leader podcast, we have a powerhouse
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Slovenian singer Carmen Clinch. It's
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It's not Clinch. Okay. I thought it was
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It's Clint. Carmen Clint. Okay. Sorry. I
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I always thought you were Clinch, but
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it's Clint. Okay. Uh Okay. We can we can
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go on no matter that I I uh I mistaken
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name. Uh how how are you? Welcome to the
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show. Thank you. So, welcome for the
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invitation. Yeah. Um, I'm okay. I'm
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Um, I was sick this week, but I'm okay
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now. Okay. But, but but I saw you like a
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few days ago that you were singing with
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your band. Uh, it's probably a cover
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a it's basically something in between.
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Okay. Uh we play a lot of u ex
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Yugoslavian rock music, but as well we
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have our own music. So with a mixture of
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everything. Yeah. With the band that's
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called for the for the world to know
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rock partisans or rock partisan, right?
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Rock
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partisani. It's a it's an interesting
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name. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of
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basically has this historical vibe, you
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know, and that's why we also play this
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um old songs. Yeah. Old Yugoslavian
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music, but on the other hand, we're a
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party band. We always, you know, um try
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to make people have fun at our shows. So
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that's why it's it it goes together
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well. Somehow you you play something
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from from your uh from your Slovenian
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bands from back in the days like uh
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Bulldoger or like uh or like Pomerancho
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or something like that. Uh no,
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unfortunately not. But I love both of
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those bands. And tomorrow actually I'm
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going to the concert of Pomerancha.
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They're playing here in Giblana. Yeah,
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I'm really excited about Caparancha.
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Yes. Yes. Caparancha. Great. Great heavy
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metal band. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Probably
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the greatest one in Slovenia. I mean uh
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they were really amazing. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Back in the days, I mean now some
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of the uh band members changed, but
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they're still great. Yeah. Yeah. They
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are probably one of the the the three
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greatest in the Yugoslavia with Diviago
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wild strawberries and with and with
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Gordi maybe I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Uh great. You you have other projects as
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well. I know you you did a lot of u a
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lot of covers I mean on your channel
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that you posted a lot of covers from Dio
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and from Whit Snake and stuff like that.
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Uh how did how did you get into that?
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Uh it's it was basically a very
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unexpected thing for me
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uh because when we were doing the first
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um back in Italy um our
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producer sent me the message after it
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and he was like you know what Carmen I
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hear something in your voice that is
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that has this deaf leopard
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vibe, you know, and maybe you could do a
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cover or two of De Leopard and because
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I'm thinking about making a band that
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would kind of sound like De Leopard and
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I want to hear if you can do it. And I
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was like, "Okay, let's do
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it." Um, and then I sent it to him and
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uh really impressed. He really loved it.
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But the band unfortunately never
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So I was like I was thinking okay I have
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those two covers now you know I should
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do something with this you know. Yeah.
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Uh and then I just posted it on YouTube
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and it's how it happened. So you know
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everything. So you started sub
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subscribers to flow and to followers and
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stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
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then I started also other covers you
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know u and for the do one I was actually
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invited it was kind of a collaboration
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for the 8th of March for um
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international women's day and there was
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um also um doing such interviews as you
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do uh and he gathered together like the
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the girls from different countries
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different musicians And
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um yeah, we made a made a collaboration.
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Okay. Yeah. Uh yeah, I I know you did a
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collaboration with Alexandra from
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Yes, that was another one. Uh we
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actually collaborated when I was still
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uh in the band called Hellcats. Uhhuh.
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Yeah. It's a Slovenian all female Yeah.
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Um Yeah. metal band. They're quite
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They're quite known. I mean, you were
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quite known back then also uh with with
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with them. Yeah. And uh Alexandra
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actually she played with us a few
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times. Um, and that's how I got to know
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her and I decided to do another cover
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and invite, you know, some friends uh to
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to do it with me um to play some
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instruments and she was on a guitar and
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bass guitar as well. So, yeah, I think
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we did a great job together. Yeah, it
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was a great cover. It was White Snake,
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right? No, this No, this was
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um from the movie Rockstar. Oh yeah.
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Stand up and stand up and shout. Yeah.
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Stand up and shout. Yeah, you did that
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one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember.
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Yeah. Yeah. And for Whit Snake, um I
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invited uh a Russian girl. Her name is
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Daria and she was also really really
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well. Oh yeah. I think I know. I've seen
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videos of her playing. Yes. Yes. Yes. I
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think I follow her. She plays great. Uh
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yeah, by the way, I had I had as a guest
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the the original singer uh Millie Millie
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from Steelart that that that sang uh the
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stand up and shout song, you know, the
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original. Yeah. Yeah. He he he was a
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guest uh in my show. He talked about
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that song that he played from for the
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Rockstar movie. Yeah. He sang it. Yeah.
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If if he thought um our cover, I hope he
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I'll I'll try to send it to him on on
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the on the email. Please do. Yeah. Yeah,
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I will. I will. Uh uh. How did Tell me
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how did you start with making music or
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or singing as a maybe little girl?
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Yeah, actually uh I was raised by music,
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by classic rock, I could say. Um,
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and I wanted to go when I was 5 years
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old. I wanted to go to the music
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school and I wanted to play the piano. I
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wasn't thinking about singing back then
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actually. I just wanted to play the
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um it was my father actually who played
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a guitar and he was also always the one
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who you know kept the party going with
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his guitar and everyone was like singing
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together with him and you know usually
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um I I went to to bed in the evening
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instead of like this good night lullaby
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he was like let's sing something
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together, you know, and he played the
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along. And yeah, then when I was five, I
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wanted to play the piano and they were
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like, Carmen, you cannot, you have to
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wait till you're seven because
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uh I don't know, it's how it works here.
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And I was, you know, so stubborn. So
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they had to take me there and I needed
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tests and they took me to the music
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school when I was five even though it
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was it was two years too early but uh
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you know they said that like my fingers
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are not strong enough yet. So I went to
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music school for two years and just
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singing these children songs and you
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the like rhythmical exercises and stuff
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and such stuff. So, um yeah, and then I
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started to play the piano and uh I
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basically started singing like
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um in high school because I joined the
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choir and um that's when I realized
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that, you know, singing is actually what
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Yeah. So you you started singing well
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while while playing piano or I mean that
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it really helped. Um, I mean it always
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helps if you play the instrument first I
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think because you know I can easily do
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the harmonies now and you know I know
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how things go in music and um yeah it's
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it's it's way easier to to also write
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something or you know or whatever. So,
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did you did you have some band when you
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were high school or I mean you had bands
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Um, I had I had some bands. I mean,
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nothing serious serious obviously, but
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uh I also joined like an ABBA tribute
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band. Oh, okay. Okay. So, I was I will
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send you the picture.
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how I looked like it was really funny
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but at the same time I mean it's not
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easy to sing ABBA songs you know
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um so yeah I had quite a few and I also
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collaborated a lot with other musicians
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and I was singing backing vocals a lot
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as well so yeah this is how it all
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started actually so you so you have
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released some music I mean as a backing
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or as a guest musicians you you have
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Your name is on the albums. Yeah. Yes.
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Yes, it is. Okay. Okay. I mean in in
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Slovenia probably, right? In Slovenia.
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Yeah. In Slovenia. And also, you know, I
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was back then, to be honest, I always
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loved rock music. Like I said, I was
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growing up with uh with rock music. Uh
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searching for what I really wanted to do
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and I um collaborated in all kinds of
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genre you know. Yeah. Also with rappers
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and you know all kinds of music not just
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rock. Okay. That's uh I mean of course
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you have the experience there. You build
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the experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, how how did uh how did you guys
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became uh you girls became a band from
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Venus 5? Uh was it the Frontiers Records
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project or or you you girls collected
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yourselves together? Yeah. Um it was uh
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the project of uh Frontiers
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Records. Uh they reached out to us. Um
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they found us probably I don't know
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through social media and uh YouTube and
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so on. They were searching for
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rock/metal singers all over the Europe
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and that's how it happened. They found
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us. Um and we're all from different
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countries. Yeah. From Albania, Serbia,
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Italy, Slovenia, and Sweden. So yeah,
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but it was like really interesting
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because to be honest, I was really
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scared at the beginning. I didn't I
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didn't know what to expect. I didn't
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know if, you know, we would get along
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girls. Uh but in the end, it really
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turned out great. And when we first met,
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actually, it was like we knew each other
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for forever. Yeah. So you you created
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the album together. I mean, you had a
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producer probably and a song maker and
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stuff and you did the album, but did did
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you did you have a time to tour to have
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a band uh to tour around Europe or with
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Uh, no, we didn't go on tour, but uh, we
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had some shows together at the festivals
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and yeah, I just uh, came from Italy
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like 10 days ago because we recorded the
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second second album. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I hope that this album brings us a
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tour. That would be great. Oh, that
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would be awesome. Uh so so uh after how
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many years is this is the second album?
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I think 3 years. Three. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think it's 3 years. So you you
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are finished with recording the album?
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Yeah. Yes. Yes. There are a few the
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problem for me was that uh I came there
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a bit uh sick with sore throat and Okay.
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So um I was struggling a little bit but
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I managed to record everything. There
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are maybe few little corrections that I
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need to do here. Uh but yeah overall
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it's it's done. Awesome. So who who are
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who are the other musicians in I mean
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except the girls who are the other
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musicians in the band or it's not like a
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like a formal band members are the other
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ones? I mean the the backup musicians uh
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the backup musicians are Italian guys.
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Um the drummer and the bass player also
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play uh in a band called Secret Sphere.
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Aha. Okay. I know them. Uh so um and
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then we have a guitarist um Gabriel
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Um, yeah. And that's that's basically
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it. Okay. So, the drummer is Marco
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Latini. I hope I pronounced it right
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because I'm not Italian. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Um, and um the bass player is
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Andy. Oh my god, I forgot the last name.
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I'm sorry. Okay. Uh, but check it out.
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Their band is called Secret Sphere. So
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yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They are pretty pretty
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I mean people know them. Yeah. Uh yeah.
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Okay. And uh this this next album Bur I
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think it's Burato. I remember now. Ah
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okay. So this second album is uh is
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preparing for I mean when it's going to
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Uh I think by the end of the year. Yeah.
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Okay. because we still need to do the
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videos first and um the the photo
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shooting and everything. So, we're going
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to do that during the summer time and
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Yeah. You know, it takes some time.
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Yeah. And then and and then and then I
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hope the next year you will do some
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promotional stuff. I don't know like
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Yeah. promotional tour or something
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maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That would be great.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. You
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know, the thing is that
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um everything is still opened
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uh and yeah, let's just hope for the
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best, but not everything is in our
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hands. Yeah. So, is it the is it the
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same five girls on the first album and
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now on the second album? Yeah. The same
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ones. Yeah. Yeah. The same five girls.
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When you were recording, I saw some
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videos and some photos and I saw four of
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you. I I didn't see the last one. Yeah.
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And the thing is that uh Gita the
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Italian girl, she also has uh a band
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called Sick and Beautiful and she was
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touring around the Europe I think.
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Uhhuh. Uh at the moment uh together with
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Lordy. Uhhuh. Okay. Uh yeah. So
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um she will send her um vocal tracks
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separately. Okay. And I'm really sorry
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that you know we didn't manage to do it
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all together but you know that's how it
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is like everyone has their own lives as
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well. So yeah we need to respect that.
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How many how many days did you did you
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need to to record everything? I mean you
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you I mean the vocals of all of the
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uh the vocals few days I I think it was
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about 10 days. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah. Your your your voices are
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quite uh in a uh like go go blend
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perfectly together, you know. It's not
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uh it's Yeah. It's not pretty distinct,
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you know. It's blending great. Yeah. I
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mean, we if you listen to us separately,
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maybe it's not, you know, you cannot
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notice it so well. Yeah. Um while
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listening to our music, but if you're
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listening listening to us separately,
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uh you can tell that we have very very
18:37
different vocals. Yeah. Yeah. But but it
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somehows somehow goes together very
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well. Yeah. Yeah. True, true, true. How
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many songs are you going to have? Uh 11.
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11 songs. Okay. Uh how many were on the
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Okay. Uh do you do you have besides rock
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partisan and besides Venus 5, you have
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some other projects or bands working on?
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Uh currently I don't have uh any other
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uh I am I definitely want to do
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something uh as well. maybe a solo thing
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or something or a new band
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or you know I'm I'm really thinking
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about it lately and uh I also have some
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like you know materials prepared and
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stuff so yeah it's just a matter of time
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so you you you do songwriting yourself
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yeah yes yes I also did uh some lyrics
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for the Venus 5 now for the second album
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um Yeah, it uh this time it was very
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very different from the first time
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because the first time we got there
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everything was already prepared. So we
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basically came there and we all sang our
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parts and that was it. Um, and now I
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felt like I was very much more included
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into the songwriting and it also like
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happened I was in Italy actually before
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uh preparing the demos together with our
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producer and you know we just
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uh put some ideas together as well for
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for for the things that were not yet
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prepared. um and you know brainstorming
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and stuff and it was really really fun
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and also now when we were all together
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you know when when we saw that I don't
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know something didn't work right we just
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to work all together on it so yeah yeah
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it's uh it's going to be great but you
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you mentioned uh that you might be doing
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some solo stuff so maybe you you will
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have some solo album in the future,
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right? I definitely will have some solo
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I mean, that's my goal. Definitely.
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Yeah, I want to do that. Yes. Yes. Okay.
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Yeah. You can maybe have guests uh
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guitarists and guests musicians and do
21:22
do the album. Yeah. Yeah. That would
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that would be great. That is that is
21:27
great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I
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saw that you you you girls are friends
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with Katie Sher from uh from Austria.
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Yeah. Yeah. She she she was like one
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year ago she was a guest at my show at
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my Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. About a
21:41
year ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she
21:44
she's a great girl. Yeah. She's tour
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touring now with the Rock Meets Classic.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I'm very very happy for
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her. I'm really glad that she got that
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opportunity. I mean it's it's a great
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great opportunity. Yeah. That's
22:01
opportunity of a lifetime. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. Yeah. Dream of every singer, I
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think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yes.
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I mean, it's incredible.
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By the way, you you still have the
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lights from New Year's behind you. I
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have New Year all year.
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No, I just love the I just love uh the
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lights and candles and such stuff, you
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know. For me, it's like I don't know.
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I'm a I'm a weird person. Of course,
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rock rock or metal heads are weird.
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Uh what what are your uh what are your
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shortterm or long-term plans in in the
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Oo. Uh, well, shortterm definitely now
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with uh everything that's going on with
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Venus 5 and um, like I said, long term.
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I mean, there are some things going on,
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but I don't want to talk about it yet
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because, you know, it's uh, but yeah,
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like I said, I definitely uh, want to
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work on some solo stuff. I'm I'm not
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quite sure yet if it will be solo solo
23:18
someone. Um but yeah, it's all in the
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um it's not there yet. So just like I
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said, I I I will tell you about it when
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I when I have more information. Of
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course. Okay. Okay. Uh do you plan on
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doing or maybe you're doing some other
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covers uh lately? Yes, definitely. The
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thing with the covers is that I work it
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together with my very good friend of
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mine. Um and he's also an amazing
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musician and an amazing producer as
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well. And uh he really helps me with my
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covers. Uh but he just uh he was also
24:09
touring so he just came home I think two
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days ago. Um and yes we will definitely
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continue with our work and I'm really
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really grateful and thankful to him that
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you know he's uh he's working with me on
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um you know we all have our own things
24:30
going on and he has his own band. Check
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it out. The band is called Bad
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Notion. Uh, and they're also going to do
24:40
the uh album release in the near future.
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And I also am going to be on that album
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uh where I'm singing a song with him.
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It's it's a bit different genre. It's
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more like blues rock, but uh it's
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amazing and um I cannot wait uh to to
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hear the whole album and to people for
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people to hear to hear it. Great. Great.
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So yeah, uh I definitely intend to to to
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work on that covers with him in the
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future as well. Great. Great. And other
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stuff, of course. Yeah, of course.
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Great. Uh Carmen, thank you. Thank you
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for uh this uh for this episode uh and
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thank you for for all the information
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about all the bands that you and all the
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projects that you're working on and uh
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when you have some other things or maybe
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next year when you're doing the tour you
25:36
can come be a guest again.
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Thank you so much and thank you for the
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invitation. It was really a pleasure. Of
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course. Thank thanks to you. We were
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planning a long time so it was great.
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Yeah. Sorry for that. Of course. I mean,
25:52
but life happens, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
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you. Have a great evening. Bye. Bye. So,