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in the new episode of Den Leather Podcast in the 31st episode of D Leather Podcast we have uh a green from Italy
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metal and hard rock singer uh welcome to the show Hello hello thank you for
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having me we both uh say the uh that tough R you know yeah yeah it's exactly
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like that yeah some people uh usually uh say my name as
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Ira as you say before yeah i Yeah but I I asked you because uh I know uh few
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languages so I know how it goes you know you're wise man that's why my look my
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name is uh my name is Uros uros yeah with with R but Americans call me Uros
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you know with R or Aros urus yeah okay uh thank you for being here
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and uh first uh I wanted to ask you about your musical career but when you were a little uh girl you know how did
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you start yeah that was so long ago i mean uh I was uh 30 at the time and
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the first uh time that I pick up the guitar and just playing trying to do
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some nirvana songs uh it was the only thing that I can do because it's easier
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you know and um then I start just like just like that to to do my own songs and
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um then it came a period uh where I was in uh different bands um I had six bands
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at the time like teenage when you were teenager i was a little bit uh more
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grown up okay uh I was um 20 maybe no no 18 18 okay i start to
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to go in live sections look 18 is 18 is still a teenager 18 yeah yeah yeah just
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just say like that yeah yeah I was a teenager actually yeah and uh then in
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2015 I've done the voice of Italy and uh it was my first um uh touch with
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the TV and I enjoy it it was a good uh experience it taught me a lot and uh now
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I'm just uh going by myself with my idea about music and I've done free albums uh
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only thank to the fans that my followers that paid for it because I always do the
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crowdfunding for for doing albums so I have done three albums just with the
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help of all my followers and uh and I'm so proud of that and I have to thank them all the day all the of my life
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however how many uh I mean uh how many copies did you did you release uh you released
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CDs or vinyls or something or no cds actually uh in the first place we've
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done some viners uh and uh for the first and second album maybe the second just
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the second one and um I don't know many copies actually you ask me something so
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bad so bizarre yeah yeah because I don't take care of these kind of things no
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because because it it's a crowdfunding I don't How how much uh can you can you
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get from crowdfunding i I did uh when we released our second album with my band we did crowdfunding and released only
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CDs but then a label released uh our vinyl uh after after the CD was released
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like a year after so I was asking you know technical stuff because I was interested in crowdfunding i'm not the
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technical person ah okay i mean I mean um we've done for each
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um in the the last two we've made around
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the 13k euros yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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that's great for for the both the second and third album that is awesome awesome
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yeah yeah it's awesome you have all the time and all the money to organize all the stuff and do
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whatever you want to do to make your music better yes buying softwares and
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buy guitars because you need that guitar for the clean sound uh this one for
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the distorted one so there's a lot going on when you doing an album when you
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create an album and then when you when you when you're done with the cities you have to ship them everywhere
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and I feel like publicar actually because because it's the tiny little
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package you know black ones like it's cocaine in
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but but it's the but it's the most satisfying job when you're signing them and when you're sending them right yeah
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i always sign it even if you buy it now one of uh the copy of my albums I always
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sign it and I always sign them on a little piece of paper because I don't want to uh waste the the CDs i only want
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the CDs to be perfect for the customer for the fun and uh and I just do it uh
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on a piece of paper so who is who's playing on your albums you have a band
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i actually have some members that are usual and some that come and go so the
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one that it's always with me is the the person that believes in me since I was
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uh newer it's Marco Brana
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marco marco marco Brana yes it's uh it's
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the basement and uh he really believes in this project it's kind of
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the first person that said "Okay let's do it because you you got something and
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I want you to go along with it." And um then we have a lot of uh it's like a
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flower full of musicians so uh actually now I'm changing my um my musician just
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for the next season for the for the concerts you you have scheduled some tour or
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something no not for now uh I have some uh gigs in acoustic and uh we are doing
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the the season for the concert day by day because uh some a lot of the of the
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gigs comes in the in the summer yeah yeah yeah usually I prefer the summer because I want to work even for the I'm
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just working for the fourth album so uh I want to stay clear with my Yeah uh you
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have uh how are the how are all of your albums called i I think the the one was
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called uh religion rebel rebel religion rebel
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is the first one right yeah it's the first one like a religion of rebel rebelling right like rebel religion okay
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nice religion sorry rebel be religion
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there's a lot of uh sentence in Yeah interesting uh how are the other two
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called it's one is called set that is seven
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in Italian in Italian it's okay and it talks about the seven deadly sins uhhuh
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uh but from the point of view of the sinner no it's a totally different kind
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of um perspective as I like to say and it's
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actually seven uh tracks it's just seven tracks it just talks about that like the
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concept album actually like the con like the Iron Maiden seven son of the seven sun concept album exactly
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yeah nice the third one is
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uh many many colors of uh of the money no all all the colors of me
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actually of me okay okay and uh it's um the one that I love
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the most maybe i don't know because it talks about uh my children so I don't
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know which one I love most you always love one more than the others so and um
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in this one I want to communicate uh all around my my background so I
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used they told they tell you you don't have to do in Italian and in English
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it's not correct because you always do or in Italian or in English i don't give
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a [ __ ] i just use two languages i don't know i just write songs as I feel so
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maybe one day I feel to write in Spanish I'll write Spanish down who cares so the
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the point is I want to put out all the colors of my voice so I used to I
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usually uh do some kind of heart rock alternative grunge okay that's my my
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background my primary background yeah but in this case I used everything i've
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done blues i've done funny songs uh soft
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ones ballads i used everything I I know and I want to do because I don't want to
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uh these labels that you usually have okay this kind of okay you're a metal
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singer you're a this you're that no no I don't care i want to be music i don't care what gender yeah i love I love it
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when uh some of my hard rock and metal heroes uh play play blues or single
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blues or you know even even I because I'm a drummer I played I Oh nice yeah I'
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I've played in a band for 25 years you know and uh uh we're still recording but
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but I've I've done some gigs with some friends when I can play blues or when I can play rock and roll or you know it's
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not just uh not just the metal stuff you know yeah if you think that Moto
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actually some kind of blues motorheads yeah yeah it's a kind of blues they they
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do have some yeah it was a it was a tommy Lee from Mly Crew uh when they
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asked him once and and he said you know sometimes you got to write a ballad you cannot be like all the time you know
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yeah that's true cannot be I totally agree with that cannot be metal all the
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time by the way the most emotional songs are written by metal heads the balls you
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know yeah if you think about uh Panta that actually there are some songs
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hollow from Panta it's awesome and it's a ballad actually starts as a ballad
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cemetery gates yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah born in winter of Kira it's a
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ballad and it's awesome yeah a lot of a lot of stuff yeah a lot
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of uh lot of brutal bands that sing uh slower ballads yeah yeah uh you you do
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all your uh albums on in Italian no no uh first one Revel was all in
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English yeah okay the second one totally in Italian the third one is mixed it's
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in Italian it's in English okay so all of them are just mix them yeah yeah and
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and the last one you are preparing yeah the last one is the same i want to
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mix because um you know what I travel a lot i love to see the world even if a
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couple of days I'll go out and I have to see a place that is not like my country
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because I have to open my mind and uh when I came back from this uh kind of
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trip you want to write down something from your emotions for your feelings and
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uh I don't think uh there's some songs just born uh as in English
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and you can sing it only in English i I think in this way some songs just uh
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come up uh with the language they they deserve that's the point yeah you're right about
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it you know even mixing sometimes maybe I'm thinking about making a songs in
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Italian and Japanese because I'm studying Japanese now i Yeah I'm totally
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weird person i have to say "Yeah I'm because I just fixed with things." Okay
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I'm going to study Japanese now i want to know it i don't know why i I I read I
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read your biography somewhere online and it said that you were shy and you were bullied when you were a kid and that you
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beat that with uh with showing up on television and stuff you know yeah yeah
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actually I've been bullied uh in the elementary school and it was not funny at all guys you
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know uh I was um uh very short at the time i was a very short little girl and
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I was shy um I was always silent um and people used to um joke about me and
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never even pick me up you say in elementary school yeah they pick me up in an elementary school because I used
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not to stay in silence with people what I mean I'm I was a shy girl okay
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but if some arrogant [ __ ] come to me and say "Oh you this you're that." Oh
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[ __ ] even if I was a little kid I don't care how big you are you're just in me
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it's engraved in me i don't know why and um the most uh brutal uh sensation that
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I felt is when they locked me up in the bathroom and uh even if they didn't
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close with the key the door I was totally free i was totally
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uh paid and I just stayed in the bathroom sitting down on the floor uh
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almost two hours before a teacher come to me uh-huh so I was a little bit uh
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even um in distress for the situation you know yeah and um
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actually before that uh I am I after that I be I became the bully and I'm
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sorry about that but I became the bully and and I start to um have questions
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with with the people just to uh get beat or beat people because I had to to build
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something and I had uh um very uh particular
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um the time when I was a teenager i had um some situations in my family and
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I don't know how to to fix it how to face it and uh I tried
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um I always felt uh some pleasure take me with the the right words um some
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comfort to uh go against people i don't know even if I am clear with my words
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actually make me feel better i know it's not a good thing but I made it and and I
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I faced it and uh I'm free to tell you now with no pressure in so when I came
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and um I took part in uh 2015 in television with uh the boys I was
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totally different persons and they taught me even how to be different because when you're on
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camera you cannot be shy you actually not be shy even if you uh on a stage you
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cannot be shy because people can uh uh now uh you know uh the attention of
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people have to burn you have to call people hey you what you doing you have
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to entertain people you have to do uh so much work that's my
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point of view anyway that you have to um make fun with
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them uh make music now social media ask that from every musician you know to be
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everything that's that's totally true once if you uh were a singer you just have to sing
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now you don't now you do have to do the social media manager you have to do the
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music and the digital marketing you know yeah yeah and I totally hate this kind
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of and you have to make some silly videos and stuff yeah man I I love to
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make silly videos actually love it i love to make all the stuff all the stupid stuff that it's in there i love
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to put it on the effort of the people you know yeah yeah yeah
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yeah uh so how did how did that uh talent show you you you finished second
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on the talent show right yeah on the semi-final in the Yeah uh so it was a
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close call if you could have make it i I heard some of the songs that you sang there it was it was incredible and uh I
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think let Zeppelin and uh AC/DC I think mhm uh and uh how did that help you in
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the in your after that in your career
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you mean the the TV yeah the Yeah yeah like were you well known after that and
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could you do some stuff because of that actually actually in Italy uh when you
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do some talents uh it's not like at the UK the USA the the label just took you
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off the stage and okay I make you become this this this this no it's not like
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that um I mean the voice is not like that i seen the voice of uh UK is
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totally different actually and um after the show
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um I actually had to struggle uh to to stay inforced by myself because uh they
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don't help you at all you totally no one for them so a lot of people seeing bull
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[ __ ] on TV say you know I want to do stuff with oh yeah yeah I want to stop
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do this do this no they don't do nothing so I started to be a little bit
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skeptical maybe and uh start to do everything uh
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by myself i'm actually independent
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so maybe uh it's a it's a great thing that you show your uh your voice your your
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voice and vocals there but in some regions of the world or or in some cases
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you you can even lose credibility in the metal uh in the metal community yeah
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it's totally true i actually I don't know what they feel about me because uh
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it's totally different if you're a male or if you're a
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female oh she's done a talent i don't like it they don't even read the book
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they just saw the the cover and say I don't like it i don't know if it's male
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or female because uh you know you know the the American talent that guy uh I
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think he won or he was second James Durban you know Durban
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uh he he was he was great he's a metal head you know and he went to the talent show and he he was like second or he won
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I don't know but no signing deals not you know every nothing and uh then he he
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started making his own records uh his solo records but uh it was hard sell for
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the metal and for the hard rock community because he was with the pop stars and all you know and then he had
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to uh work twice as hard to get into the metal community again you know that's
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true yeah that's actually true as I said I don't know if I'm part of the metal
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community i can do metal that is different to being in a metal community
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because I have a totally different point of view from all the the kind of music i don't
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think that doing metal you have to do like this no for me you can laugh and do
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stupid stuff i don't care so uh maybe they don't like this kind of stuff about
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me that I always make jokes or stupid things
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i don't know probably I I envision every rocker or
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metal guy or or girl that likes jokes why why not you know why not yeah but
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for um as a presence they prefer to be serious uhhuh okay i don't I actually
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don't need to be serious i'm serious when I'm singing or on the stage when
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I'm talking or I'm doing my stuff on the social medias why should I be serious
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yeah yeah yeah do you I see some some paintings there do you paint uh yeah
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that all gifts from the the fans i have everything even there uhhuh okay i
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thought I I thought you were the one that's painting no no i'm actually a mule about that no i I know how to draw
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something but I'm not that good uh the the big one that that you see there yeah
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yeah that's the cover from the third album
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this one is made from a fan this one is made for my Yeah portraits great yeah a
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lot of portraits and um one of my fans got a Polaroid instantaneous and made a lot of
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pictures and gave it to me and it's kind of like grunge section so I love it i
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love it yeah they I love it because they uh artist yeah yeah they share the heart
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with me and I'm very proud of it that's awesome you maybe have to put some something from that on like on your
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cover like there you know i used it yeah yeah yeah yeah the the
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one I meant from the from the new album yeah i have to think about it uh did you
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did you uh constantly had tours back in the past like through Europe or I don't
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know maybe worldwide yeah uh Europe and even outside of Europe because I've been
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in many places and um I'm actually I don't know all the countries of Europe
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so but I've been in um all the Italy i've done all the Italy
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uh Swiss Austria um uh Ireland France uh Czech Republic
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um turn the only ones there's a lot prague
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Prague Prague is Prague is in check yeah yeah yeah i remember that precisely
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because it was very weird it was at a private heaven and it was
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very weird but it was kind of cool actually
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and I've been even in um Brazil but not for play for be a judge uh for contest
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yeah the feminine contest all all girls band made by girls and it was very cool
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really yeah the mosquito were that big but it was cool
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from Brazil yeah oh I had a I had a guest guitar player from Brazil uh on
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the show it was a girl uh play Issa Nilson i don't know if you know her yeah
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yeah yeah yeah female guitar player she is great awesome great
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uh so what's your what are your future plans uh now i mean after the album or
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when you're preparing the album and future plans long term short term
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uh in the short terms I want to uh work about the the album i don't know uh
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exactly what I want to do about it because I want something different from the
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others and I'm working about uh the waking up people because uh I don't know
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if you know the reality the musical reality in Italy is not good uh because
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we got um I don't know if you know festival yeah I know I know yeah it's uh Italian
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song festival but actually nobody thinks I mean
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is very popular from back in the day yeah I know like but it's like sch slunger songs
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like uh like pop songs right pop uh pop pop soft songs Italian songs but um
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actually I don't like this because uh they all use auto tune and I'm totally
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against it i never used it in my life my entire life never used it i prefer to
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record five times a vocal i don't care i have a studio i have time i do it i
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don't use altitude i hate it so um right now working some tracks i just start
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some tracks then I say "Okay I come back later from this i start with that so I'm working for this and long term I don't
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know because I don't make plans actually okay i just go on feeling what I have to
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do spontaneous uh yeah I'm totally spontaneous i don't make any plans even
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just just for the albums you have to plan it actually if you don't plan it you're going to hell uh but I keep going
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with my um my kind of uh of work on socials to make my music come to the
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people and uh that's it and in the meanwhile I'm just doing some gigs uh
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it's in winter so we doing an acoustic but so I'm I'm planning some gigs in uh
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electric with all the musicians all around all around the Europe yeah so you
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you might tour right yep that's after the album
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but I don't know actually because I want you I don't want pressure for doing the
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album okay so I want to take care uh with calm uh with with all my stuff I
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have to think about and then maybe in 2000
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X will be out the album nice okay okay where i didn't ask you what region from
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Italy are you where what's it i'm actually I'm actually from uh Napoli napoli napoli yes napoli yeah but I live
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in north Italy long north i uh it's north Italy it's
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um no kind of near it's uh what's there very close it's fencia there fe it's a
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little bit uh down from it's Uhhuh okay i had a I I I had a guest
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musician from Italy i think he's very famous uh Alessandro Devio maybe you
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know him he plays in a lot of bands you know keyboard player uh they know him
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there and Frontier he was in Frontiers Records now he's uh uh he's he has a
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recording studio by himself and he was a guest and he's from North Italy from a
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small place somewhere a lot of uh Sweden and etherist from the banks living in
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north Italy because it's quite similar for the weather nice
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nice okay i I I wish you great success with the new album and with the tours
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and whatever you plan on and uh thank you one more time for being a guest on on the show thanks to you to have me uh
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here in the program and uh want to thank all the people that followed me uh thank
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you for make me do that because it's all thanks to the people that I do this of
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course we'll do another one when when the album is out okay yep totally thanks
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you get it thanks bye